My Bengals went through the full range of emotions from weeks 5-8 in the 2020 NFL season. INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/flemloraps/ TWITTER: twitter.com/FlemLoRaps
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Just watching this back and in case its not clear...if u make to the end of the video. Im IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM grouping the Steelers with the rest of the teams on screen. When I say 2-2 or 3-1 n our next 4, im counting the Steelers as an L. Its probably obvious...but I know how this internet thing goes lol. With that said...It would be WILD if we sneak up and get the upset though...
FlemLo Raps3 months ago
corvette corvette
Vikram Bansal23 days ago
dont worry. you made it clear. people of reasonable intelligence should notice and screw everyone else cuz they're dumb.
USER 52SIXTYMonth ago
Flemo you should do the downfall of Richard Sherman
ELECTRON3 months ago
John Ross was moved to cb in practice and got hurt again letting ya know very disappointing
LilBxtes3 months ago
Do a video on Armanti Edwards from App State please.
WarriorOfVirtue 53 months ago
Flem ima need the next video on the end of the Bengals season
Office Fern3 days ago
I know you couldn’t wait to do this video lol I’m late on this but good video FlemLo keep up the hard work !!!!! That was one of the problems my team the Pats had this past season a lot of opt outs of key defensive players
Matt G9 days ago
I'm from the Queen City so I know all about heartbreaking seasons..... WHO DEY ALL DEY
David Bowen10 days ago
Y'all playing browns 2nd and 3rd DBs, so of course they gonna look better. 21 is gonna be a much better year.
CALLME NANCY18 days ago
I LOVE AUDEN TATE MAN... #19
P Burna24 days ago
We getting more of this? Looking forward to see what you had to say for these games.
Sean KlineMonth ago
The bengals aren’t popular in Ohio because they suck 😂
Colton GatrellMonth ago
Good platform dude!! No disrespect.. I am a Falcons fan... Wonder bout that disease!!! 😂... Braves, Falcons, Hawks.. Keep doing what u do.. Good job..
Quenton GriffinMonth ago
Why a Bengals fan? You dont seem old enough for Sam Whyche, Chris Colinsworth...1984.or the drive by Joe Montanna and TD not to Jerry Rice... Im sure u no the name of who caught it.. I think Fred Taylor.. 😂 😂
Quenton GriffinMonth ago
Question: I hardly ever run into a non-Cincinnati metro dweller that is a lifelong Bengals fan, so I ❤️ that FlemLo is a fan. Anyone know why he loves the Bengals?
NikiMikMonth ago
FlemLo Raps you are an extraordinary worker you're the best in your field. I am amazed at the number of videos you have produced. Your pod is like a football encyclopedia.
CECIL MurrayMonth ago
Do you have a video on baker mayfield?
Adam QuintanillaMonth ago
Burrow may be Sam Darnold.....If the Bengals don’t smarten up and protect him. I’m a Jet fan. Trust me. Dont let the kid lose confidence. When that happens it’s a wrap. Que the Wayne.
M NMonth ago
At least your not a lions fan
Tyler HenryMonth ago
Yo flemlo! Where the week 9-12?
Alan Velazco2 months ago
For all those bengals fans is Joe burrow a game manager? I need your opinion
Sean Richards2 months ago
They need u in the locker room motivating them
MelaninMike904 Davis2 months ago
Warrick Dunn Flemlo
Andray Jett2 months ago
Where da new update video?? You ok ??
sac riches2 months ago
I don’t blame John Ross for wanting to trade he is a great player and he showed it last year at least let him play for at least 10 minutes if I was John I’d want to trade also
ross boys33222 months ago
Bruh
Jack Feldman2 months ago
You must be so upset since Joe went down
Juan Rangel2 months ago
Thanks for Dunlap!! From a hawks fan. Dude has 3.5 sacks in 3 games. We needed that 🙏
MrBezl3 months ago
Baker did good first year bad second year and he is doing good this year
MZNFL & More3 months ago
When you watch this video after Washington 🤧🤧🤧
Will Purcell3 months ago
Packers just blown a lead against the colts because bad play calling defense started sucking and it took 4 turnovers to guarantee the lose
Uncagedbeast22 Jeehe3 months ago
Here after burrow just go hurt 😳😳
Kingopp3 months ago
Steelers fan here. I love your new QB. I’d rather have him than Jackson or Baker. If you keep building through the draft and make a few trades, you guys might be back to where you were a while back except with a far better QB. Once Big Ben retires, my team will probably be in QB hell for a while. So keep the faith and your time will hopefully come. Obviously I want my team to win, but Bengals fans deserve a good team. It’s incredible how loyal so many of you have stayed and I like the people in Ohio! So good luck in the future.
Beautiful Life3 months ago
Tbh ya rookie balling out like a all star Y’all just getting started❗️🔥
Allen The Skywalker3 months ago
Tbh ya rookie balling out like a all star Y’all just getting started❗️🔥
Allen The Skywalker3 months ago
Bro the Steelers, Baltimore are beating the stripes out of y'all......
P. UNIT3 months ago
Jesus is king and our savior
Yianni Douris3 months ago
If the front office doesn’t sit on their hands and does something this team will be dangerous in a few years
Brandon Weese3 months ago
When the season first started i was impressed by Joe Burrow. But i could immediately see that his O-Line was trash, then as the weeks kept going by the o-line started to look better.....then it went to shit again. Then i was like, oh yeah, its the Bengals should have known. But if your a bangles fan you better hope and pray they get people around Burrow. Because he's looking good despite losing, and with him the team might finally be good. But it all depends on getting him people starting with the O-line.
WBsteve3 months ago
Don’t worry the bengals have a really good team, there super young, rookie qb, the bengals are legit. The bengals will be great next year with all the young player. Oh wait, it’s the bengals.
Black Viper3 months ago
It’s nice to see you be able to talk about the Bengals with a smile on your face. There’s a lot of growing up to do but I would agree that there is a lot to be optimistic about. It sucks that AJ Green has fallen off. But time Eventually gets the best of everyone. If I were you I would be stoked about Tee Higgins & Joe Burrow
Thomas OKeefe3 months ago
Thoughts of a Jay Ajayi vid?
Daniel Trujillo3 months ago
Why do you look a little bit like Ty Hilton
mccloud793 months ago
Can you do a story on LSU cornerback Johnathan Zenon? Love your content!
Itolje Hughes3 months ago
Can you do a story on LSU cornerback Johnathan Zenon? Love your content!
Itolje Hughes3 months ago
Were going to shock the world tomorrow Flem LETTSS GOOO
3xtra Terrestrial3 months ago
Imagine if patriots traded for John Ross that would be a win win
Reese Keysor3 months ago
Can we get a What happened to Eddie Lacy?
Scott C3 months ago
Bro john Ross got injured again:/
BigPlayJohn J3 months ago
You should do what happened to Jake Heaps sometime. The number one QB recruit of the 2009 class
Drew Simon3 months ago
Yo flem I discovered your vids about a month ago and been playing them nonstop. I have one question, have you done or will you be doing a marquette king video? I think there's some interesting stuff there
Felipe Negron3 months ago
Do a video on What Happened to Byron Maxwell next please.
Gabe F. Stafford3 months ago
Flem.. I myself am also a Mississippi native (Booneville ,ms) I graduated from Baldwyn high. I have to know what town you are from
Mitch Rapp3 months ago
Bengals fan here since high school. My biggest concern is what people aren't talking about. What happens if Burrow gets hurt? Who is our backup?
K J3 months ago
FlemLo, I don't know if you will see this but in the last two weeks I've watched every single one of your videos. I obviously don't know you but you seem like one of the most stand-up, down-to-earth, thoughtful people on the internet. I really enjoy your commentary & subtle analysis as well as your disposition & consistently unbiased attitude & perspective. Your empathy resonates & I really respect your work. Thank you for all the videos!
Jack Major3 months ago
Flem, thank you so much! I really needed this video. Keep the faith! Who Dey!
Neutralchaos3 months ago
What happen to Marlon Mack?
Jeff Lamb3 months ago
Do u do Basketball stories to
Jay Mitch3 months ago
Please do “What Happened to Jay Ajayi?”
Finnex3 months ago
Armanti Edwards App State
WarriorOfVirtue 53 months ago
If the bengals won the chargers, eagles, colts, and if they won week 7 against the browns. The bengals record would be 6-2 .
Michael Paynter3 months ago
Bro do a vid on Todd Marinovich he was a raiders Qb for a short time in the 90s but his story is wild
Nicholas Chilano3 months ago
Any chance you will make a video on Adam Thielens NFL journey? That would be great to watch!
bucklax313 months ago
Can you drop a video on what happened to jordy nelson
Big Tee3 months ago
I thought you really wanted to talk about something?
gsmd7703 months ago
Tuff to be a bengals fan lol.....I’m a patriots fan😭😭
GXRLA Prod.3 months ago
What happened to Kyle Rudolph?
Keyvis Moore3 months ago
If you need communication on someone that's playing better than you. 🤔 you don't see the tape
Mike Smith3 months ago
Why you had to say part 2 so hard tho? 😤
Danny Johnson3 months ago
Please do a video on Corey Ballentine, the 2020 6th round draft pick. He was shot right after being drafted. He kits got cut by The New York Football Giants. I love your videos and he deserves one.
Gio Spicknall3 months ago
LOL the BENGLES are a JOKE... You draft a QB with NO OLINE TO PROTECT HIM... and send him out to get KILLED every week... Yall should be ASHAMED that your young QB is getting EATEN ALIVE... Season over just sit JOE before / he gets HURT and misses out next year... YA BETTER SIT HIM cuz you are 1-8 what good is it to win any games? tank for a better OLINE next year you idiots.
JUDALATION gamestrodamous3 months ago
i stg i said the same thing when we went up 21 against the colts bro
JBudkeENT3 months ago
playoff run otw 🧡🖤
JBudkeENT3 months ago
upset of the year........... raiders quiefs week 5 DOMINATED
Kam Shelton3 months ago
Upset of the year was raiders beating chiefs
Phresh 88.83 months ago
Hey Flem! We're a sports training facility in NE Ohio. We work with a lot of pro athletes and we'd LOVE to collaborate with you! Hit us back! We'd love to make something with you!
NST Sports Performance3 months ago
Looks like you got into a fight my guy!!!
Bipolar Jigga1103 months ago
Who is the FlemLo for the Seahawks? Love your content man.
Ryan Ayers3 months ago
DEZ BRYANT part 2
Akshay Mandadapu3 months ago
Joe Burrow need to fast AJ Green more
gavin_ispossible3 months ago
Anyone think joe burrow has a shot at winning offensive rookie of the year? Justin Herbert has better stats so far in most ways. Think if he leads the bengals to a few more wins than the chargers he can still get the award?
Erik Edwards3 months ago
Next year we draft an o line to help burrow it'll be the start of something good
Lowell Smith3 months ago
Might need to draft a qb pray for joe
sac riches3 months ago
Hey how bout you do a what happened to Peter Warwick. Dude was a dog at FSU!
That Dude3 months ago
Big FSU fan and always good to see their products in the NFL. Auden Tate is nice in tough on that jump ball at 6'5"
Mike Rob3 months ago
As a Titans fan, Dislike. Nah jp, I was aggravated as hell watching this game though. Joseph was getting cooked alll game
Jaylen McClanahan3 months ago
FLEMLO! Love your videos bro! What happened to T.O.? (Terrell Owens)
mattluvsrush13 months ago
Burrow is great . But the bungles are historically bad. Just rename this segment the Joe show 🤣🤣
Grizwald Dickie3 months ago
You're one of the best there is at what you do, happy that you're a fellow Cincy fan, and congratulations that you get to document their upcoming rise to greatness with a front row seat for all fans and historians of the NFL. I would love to hear your thoughts on Tee Higgens, and if he is as good not as good or better than you thought.
Chris Kaufman3 months ago
You just put Auden Tate on my radar! I love your channel but your Bengals videos need to be chopped down to 10-15 minutes lol. I know this would be hard for you to since they are your team but the Bengals are hard to click on for must of us lol
Dom Roach3 months ago
What’s up FLEMLO? could you do a what happened to Darren Carrington? You’re the best at what you do! Peace out have a good one FLEM!
Blessed Awesome3 months ago
Who punched my man FlemLo? I know that eye feeling like hell.
Stephen Singleton3 months ago
Damn AFC north going to be like NFC west soon! All those teams, Bengals soon, will be able to win the division realistically
espben3603 months ago
i’m not even a bengals fan, but i’m a joe burrow fan. he’s so electric to watch, you guys definitely have a special QB who will be around for a long time.
babyave3 months ago
This is the best shit to listen to for long drives. Flemlo is obviously an empath, he balances intuition with logic in a dope balance. His voice doesn’t annoy the f out of me which is a +2
Reeve Staley3 months ago
What happened to ... OJ Simpson Aaron Hernandez
Ryan McKitrick3 months ago
Our offensive line men coming back is not a good thing if they get their jobs back.
Jay Hay3 months ago
Excellent points about Auden Tate. I was hyping him all off-season and was shocked when he wasn't getting any playing time. He is flat out good.
Jay Hay3 months ago
Can u do a video on kordell Stewart he’s my favorite player and not a lot of people know him
fabricio pintado3 months ago
Gdo Lil Wayne's voice makes me sick after the Trump bullshit.
BlueButtonFly3 months ago
As a bengals fan hope is alive
Andrew Piedrahita3 months ago
Even though my squad has beat up on the Bengals in the past, I'm a lifelong SF 49ers fan, I've watched both of your Cincy evaluation vids thru to the end, that's how good I think your content is bro....also, Burrows and Higgins are savages, as long as they stay healthy, y'all have got a really good combo with those two....
LiberalsAreGarbage3 months ago
Going to be a great game next week vs my Steelers tbh I'm kinda nervous, especially with the Steelers last performance and yinz coming off a win
Samuel Fotheringham3 months ago
I hope Cincy hands the Steelers their first loss! 🙏🏽🤞🏽
J. Coder3 months ago
FlemLo. The Bengals are not getting any better and here's the kicker one why. You've seen this before with Carson, and Dalton. The problem stays with the front office because they fail to know how to build a team for long-term success but seem to be okay with losing. Y'all are getting stuck in an ENDLESS cycle of year after year of being terrible or mediocre at best and it will never change
Just watching this back and in case its not clear...if u make to the end of the video. Im IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM grouping the Steelers with the rest of the teams on screen. When I say 2-2 or 3-1 n our next 4, im counting the Steelers as an L. Its probably obvious...but I know how this internet thing goes lol. With that said...It would be WILD if we sneak up and get the upset though...
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dont worry. you made it clear. people of reasonable intelligence should notice and screw everyone else cuz they're dumb.
Flemo you should do the downfall of Richard Sherman
John Ross was moved to cb in practice and got hurt again letting ya know very disappointing
Do a video on Armanti Edwards from App State please.
Flem ima need the next video on the end of the Bengals season
I know you couldn’t wait to do this video lol I’m late on this but good video FlemLo keep up the hard work !!!!! That was one of the problems my team the Pats had this past season a lot of opt outs of key defensive players
I'm from the Queen City so I know all about heartbreaking seasons..... WHO DEY ALL DEY
Y'all playing browns 2nd and 3rd DBs, so of course they gonna look better. 21 is gonna be a much better year.
I LOVE AUDEN TATE MAN... #19
We getting more of this? Looking forward to see what you had to say for these games.
The bengals aren’t popular in Ohio because they suck 😂
Good platform dude!! No disrespect.. I am a Falcons fan... Wonder bout that disease!!! 😂... Braves, Falcons, Hawks.. Keep doing what u do.. Good job..
Why a Bengals fan? You dont seem old enough for Sam Whyche, Chris Colinsworth...1984.or the drive by Joe Montanna and TD not to Jerry Rice... Im sure u no the name of who caught it.. I think Fred Taylor.. 😂 😂
Question: I hardly ever run into a non-Cincinnati metro dweller that is a lifelong Bengals fan, so I ❤️ that FlemLo is a fan. Anyone know why he loves the Bengals?
FlemLo Raps you are an extraordinary worker you're the best in your field. I am amazed at the number of videos you have produced. Your pod is like a football encyclopedia.
Do you have a video on baker mayfield?
Burrow may be Sam Darnold.....If the Bengals don’t smarten up and protect him. I’m a Jet fan. Trust me. Dont let the kid lose confidence. When that happens it’s a wrap. Que the Wayne.
At least your not a lions fan
Yo flemlo! Where the week 9-12?
For all those bengals fans is Joe burrow a game manager? I need your opinion
They need u in the locker room motivating them
Warrick Dunn Flemlo
Where da new update video?? You ok ??
I don’t blame John Ross for wanting to trade he is a great player and he showed it last year at least let him play for at least 10 minutes if I was John I’d want to trade also
Bruh
You must be so upset since Joe went down
Thanks for Dunlap!! From a hawks fan. Dude has 3.5 sacks in 3 games. We needed that 🙏
Baker did good first year bad second year and he is doing good this year
When you watch this video after Washington 🤧🤧🤧
Packers just blown a lead against the colts because bad play calling defense started sucking and it took 4 turnovers to guarantee the lose
Here after burrow just go hurt 😳😳
Steelers fan here. I love your new QB. I’d rather have him than Jackson or Baker. If you keep building through the draft and make a few trades, you guys might be back to where you were a while back except with a far better QB. Once Big Ben retires, my team will probably be in QB hell for a while. So keep the faith and your time will hopefully come. Obviously I want my team to win, but Bengals fans deserve a good team. It’s incredible how loyal so many of you have stayed and I like the people in Ohio! So good luck in the future.
Tbh ya rookie balling out like a all star Y’all just getting started❗️🔥
Tbh ya rookie balling out like a all star Y’all just getting started❗️🔥
Bro the Steelers, Baltimore are beating the stripes out of y'all......
Jesus is king and our savior
If the front office doesn’t sit on their hands and does something this team will be dangerous in a few years
When the season first started i was impressed by Joe Burrow. But i could immediately see that his O-Line was trash, then as the weeks kept going by the o-line started to look better.....then it went to shit again. Then i was like, oh yeah, its the Bengals should have known. But if your a bangles fan you better hope and pray they get people around Burrow. Because he's looking good despite losing, and with him the team might finally be good. But it all depends on getting him people starting with the O-line.
Don’t worry the bengals have a really good team, there super young, rookie qb, the bengals are legit. The bengals will be great next year with all the young player. Oh wait, it’s the bengals.
It’s nice to see you be able to talk about the Bengals with a smile on your face. There’s a lot of growing up to do but I would agree that there is a lot to be optimistic about. It sucks that AJ Green has fallen off. But time Eventually gets the best of everyone. If I were you I would be stoked about Tee Higgins & Joe Burrow
Thoughts of a Jay Ajayi vid?
Why do you look a little bit like Ty Hilton
Can you do a story on LSU cornerback Johnathan Zenon? Love your content!
Can you do a story on LSU cornerback Johnathan Zenon? Love your content!
Were going to shock the world tomorrow Flem LETTSS GOOO
Imagine if patriots traded for John Ross that would be a win win
Can we get a What happened to Eddie Lacy?
Bro john Ross got injured again:/
You should do what happened to Jake Heaps sometime. The number one QB recruit of the 2009 class
Yo flem I discovered your vids about a month ago and been playing them nonstop. I have one question, have you done or will you be doing a marquette king video? I think there's some interesting stuff there
Do a video on What Happened to Byron Maxwell next please.
Flem.. I myself am also a Mississippi native (Booneville ,ms) I graduated from Baldwyn high. I have to know what town you are from
Bengals fan here since high school. My biggest concern is what people aren't talking about. What happens if Burrow gets hurt? Who is our backup?
FlemLo, I don't know if you will see this but in the last two weeks I've watched every single one of your videos. I obviously don't know you but you seem like one of the most stand-up, down-to-earth, thoughtful people on the internet. I really enjoy your commentary & subtle analysis as well as your disposition & consistently unbiased attitude & perspective. Your empathy resonates & I really respect your work. Thank you for all the videos!
Flem, thank you so much! I really needed this video. Keep the faith! Who Dey!
What happen to Marlon Mack?
Do u do Basketball stories to
Please do “What Happened to Jay Ajayi?”
Armanti Edwards App State
If the bengals won the chargers, eagles, colts, and if they won week 7 against the browns. The bengals record would be 6-2 .
Bro do a vid on Todd Marinovich he was a raiders Qb for a short time in the 90s but his story is wild
Any chance you will make a video on Adam Thielens NFL journey? That would be great to watch!
Can you drop a video on what happened to jordy nelson
I thought you really wanted to talk about something?
Tuff to be a bengals fan lol.....I’m a patriots fan😭😭
What happened to Kyle Rudolph?
If you need communication on someone that's playing better than you. 🤔 you don't see the tape
Why you had to say part 2 so hard tho? 😤
Please do a video on Corey Ballentine, the 2020 6th round draft pick. He was shot right after being drafted. He kits got cut by The New York Football Giants. I love your videos and he deserves one.
LOL the BENGLES are a JOKE... You draft a QB with NO OLINE TO PROTECT HIM... and send him out to get KILLED every week... Yall should be ASHAMED that your young QB is getting EATEN ALIVE... Season over just sit JOE before / he gets HURT and misses out next year... YA BETTER SIT HIM cuz you are 1-8 what good is it to win any games? tank for a better OLINE next year you idiots.
i stg i said the same thing when we went up 21 against the colts bro
playoff run otw 🧡🖤
upset of the year........... raiders quiefs week 5 DOMINATED
Upset of the year was raiders beating chiefs
Hey Flem! We're a sports training facility in NE Ohio. We work with a lot of pro athletes and we'd LOVE to collaborate with you! Hit us back! We'd love to make something with you!
Looks like you got into a fight my guy!!!
Who is the FlemLo for the Seahawks? Love your content man.
DEZ BRYANT part 2
Joe Burrow need to fast AJ Green more
Anyone think joe burrow has a shot at winning offensive rookie of the year? Justin Herbert has better stats so far in most ways. Think if he leads the bengals to a few more wins than the chargers he can still get the award?
Next year we draft an o line to help burrow it'll be the start of something good
Might need to draft a qb pray for joe
Hey how bout you do a what happened to Peter Warwick. Dude was a dog at FSU!
Big FSU fan and always good to see their products in the NFL. Auden Tate is nice in tough on that jump ball at 6'5"
As a Titans fan, Dislike. Nah jp, I was aggravated as hell watching this game though. Joseph was getting cooked alll game
FLEMLO! Love your videos bro! What happened to T.O.? (Terrell Owens)
Burrow is great . But the bungles are historically bad. Just rename this segment the Joe show 🤣🤣
You're one of the best there is at what you do, happy that you're a fellow Cincy fan, and congratulations that you get to document their upcoming rise to greatness with a front row seat for all fans and historians of the NFL. I would love to hear your thoughts on Tee Higgens, and if he is as good not as good or better than you thought.
You just put Auden Tate on my radar! I love your channel but your Bengals videos need to be chopped down to 10-15 minutes lol. I know this would be hard for you to since they are your team but the Bengals are hard to click on for must of us lol
What’s up FLEMLO? could you do a what happened to Darren Carrington? You’re the best at what you do! Peace out have a good one FLEM!
Who punched my man FlemLo? I know that eye feeling like hell.
Damn AFC north going to be like NFC west soon! All those teams, Bengals soon, will be able to win the division realistically
i’m not even a bengals fan, but i’m a joe burrow fan. he’s so electric to watch, you guys definitely have a special QB who will be around for a long time.
This is the best shit to listen to for long drives. Flemlo is obviously an empath, he balances intuition with logic in a dope balance. His voice doesn’t annoy the f out of me which is a +2
What happened to ... OJ Simpson Aaron Hernandez
Our offensive line men coming back is not a good thing if they get their jobs back.
Excellent points about Auden Tate. I was hyping him all off-season and was shocked when he wasn't getting any playing time. He is flat out good.
Can u do a video on kordell Stewart he’s my favorite player and not a lot of people know him
Gdo Lil Wayne's voice makes me sick after the Trump bullshit.
As a bengals fan hope is alive
Even though my squad has beat up on the Bengals in the past, I'm a lifelong SF 49ers fan, I've watched both of your Cincy evaluation vids thru to the end, that's how good I think your content is bro....also, Burrows and Higgins are savages, as long as they stay healthy, y'all have got a really good combo with those two....
Going to be a great game next week vs my Steelers tbh I'm kinda nervous, especially with the Steelers last performance and yinz coming off a win
I hope Cincy hands the Steelers their first loss! 🙏🏽🤞🏽
FlemLo. The Bengals are not getting any better and here's the kicker one why. You've seen this before with Carson, and Dalton. The problem stays with the front office because they fail to know how to build a team for long-term success but seem to be okay with losing. Y'all are getting stuck in an ENDLESS cycle of year after year of being terrible or mediocre at best and it will never change